Imperfect Helping Hands

Welcome to Imperfect Helping Hands, the podcast where we embrace our imperfections, lift each other up, and
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inspire one another on this shared journey of growth. Hello. Hello
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everybody. Welcome to Imperfect Helping Hands podcast. I am with Seth Ruben, my co-host, and
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today I'm going to interview John Emory. I met John Emory. Well, it was
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interesting. You know how we connect through social media and like we're like who's this person, you know, and then we
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just gain great connection. John messaged me on LinkedIn, I believe, and
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I guess he saw like mutual connection with someone else and he liked my content and thought to interview me for
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his podcast. So before I say a little bit more about John, I would like to
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have you introduce yourself and see more about you. Sure. So my name is John Emory. I have a
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full-time job, but after that I focus on podcasting. So we can dive into how I
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got into that if you like. Uh but it's where people come on, share their journey in life and how they went through things. And that's what I look
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forward to. Open, honest, authentic, vulnerable people coming on. And so I
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have a procedure I follow and I've been doing that for about two and a half years. It' be three years in November. Oh wow.
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And uh yeah, your first event that I was able to attend was the first one I was able to speak at. And then I had my
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first live event I held the weekend thereafter. Wow. All these opportunities just the
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connections and how big it can like both help each other. And so what's your podcast name? Like what's the name of
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your podcast? Uh life's check mark. Life's check mark. Okay. Nice. I um I do
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remember you interviewed me and it seemed like it spiked like a lot of people like the message that I was
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speaking about, you know, being imperfect and through my imperfect moments and everything. Can you explain
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a little bit more about like why you do your podcasts and what makes you want to just focus on that?
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Yeah, so for me it was me navigating through a job loss after 20 years and then I w up going through a divorce in
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the same year. it was mentioned to me. Nothing I ever wanted, but it came up. Um, and so I wind up going to a live
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event about a year and a half thereafter. Something I never would have done if I
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was still married and had kids. I would have, you know, I hardly ever left the kids as much as possible, right? So, I'm
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like, "Okay, I don't know what I'm doing. I'll buy this ticket for the next year and I'll go." Uh, it's another
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podcaster. It's local to us. It's not far. And he's been doing it for about nine years now in podcasting. So the
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event he held wasn't on podcast. It was just growth, right? All these speakers and stuff. And so there I was for two
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days. Went down for breakfast and he was there. He's like, "Yeah, come sit at the table." So I did. All the you know, most
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of the speakers were there. And everybody got up, but this one guy and I I say this all the time because I don't
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remember his name. He probably doesn't even remember me. He's like, "What do you want to do?" And I said, I said, "Start a podcast." And I have no idea
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really why I said it. So he said, "Well, do you have anything?" I'm like, well, I have these
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10 Facebook lives I had, you know, prior to the word divorce. Uh, because I was
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diving into life insurance at the time, so I was learning about entrepreneurs. And he's like, just take the audio,
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strip that, and, you know, start start your podcast with that. I'm like, well, it's nothing I want my podcast to be about. You know, I didn't want to
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interview just entrepreneurs. Uh, funny enough, most people are, you know, because they go through things and they
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create their own business. But six months later, I did that. So, I hesitated, right? And I don't know why,
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you know, I just, yeah, for whatever reason, I was meant to be six months later. Um, that got me started. I was
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able to, and I recommend this to everybody I talk to, you know, I was able to post three episodes first and
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then one thereafter per week. So, I had 10 already banked, right? Uh, which allowed me to go ahead and find friends,
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family members, whoever I thought was a good fit for my podcast to start lining them up. And so now it's just been like
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a spiderweb of networking and stuff and where people I I'll talk to them like this for 20 minutes, you know, virtually
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mostly and just get make sure they're a good fit first. Good energy, good person
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and then I would schedule a podcast episode. Uh but it's this is what I
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enjoy doing. People you say the word podcast, everybody's like, hey, you know, I'm in becoming a huge thing. That's why I was
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like, you know, why not create something here? We all have stories. We all have
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something to motivate each other. So that's why I think it would be awesome to, you know, create this.
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Great. I got inspired by you. Uh you were my first like big podcast that I got interview from and I was just
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like this is cool. Like you know, got to express yourself and everything. It's amazing.
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It is fun. Yeah, that's awesome. Sorry to cut you off. No, you're good. I I really do love that. And when you
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when you do a podcast, what kind of people are you looking for? Exactly. Yeah. So, like I it's the people that
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are open, honest, vulnerable, authentic. Right. That's right. And just I just want to let have an open
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conversation just like we're having now and just see where it takes us. Right. So, I I kind of go, you know, who are you
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today and then how did you get there? Right? And let's go back in time and figure out how did you get there? Now, sometimes we
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get stuck in one area, but that's just how the conversation takes us. Sometimes the people are focusing on their
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entrepreneur journey. They're focusing on, you know, the abuse they dealt with, the bankruptcy, all a whole bunch of
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different, you know, there's stuff I'm sure I haven't even heard yet that I still have to come across. With your podcast, what kind of people
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do you invite um in your podcast to like interview? Yes. So, I'm looking for people that are
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open, honest, vulnerable, and authentic. And I basically just talk to them for about 20 minutes prior to scheduling the
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episode, right? So, that way I get to make sure that we're a good fit and we have a good energy going back and forth
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because sometimes you you might find those people that you have to like cry a little bit and you know, um I I will say
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that I start off with them coming on and then I would say, "Who are you today?
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You know, what are you most excited about?" out and it kind of like opens up things a little bit and then go back in
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time like you know how did you get to where you're at today because you obviously didn't say hey this is who I'm going to be for the rest of my life you
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know right right away and that's how it happens right and just see where the conversation goes
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and we might get into like a rabbit hole of you know whatever they just experienced in one area um or we might
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just you know jump around back and forth and it's it just I'm I'm just looking for the the authentic pick part of like
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just share what you went through so somebody else can hear it and they can get through whatever you went through as well. Yes. Getting your voice heard and and
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just speaking up because then that helps the person just let that go also
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it gets the listener to listen and to know that they're not alone in their situation. So that that is an incredible
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thing and you have mentioned so many um situations you've been through and I'm sure that Seth would um relate to you
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because he also went through divorce and um I don't know Seth did you want to
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talk about ask anything about that? I I think like going through um divorce and
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going through the challenges that come after divorce definitely help you see a
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little bit differently. And I think that um has helped me not only discover who I
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am but helped me become a better person. And I think um it's helped me also try
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to help those around me and given me a almost like a internal recipe for
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um what I want to do with my life and I I love to help people. That's what my
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mission is. My mission is to help people and I I find that um helping people is
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very rewarding and I find some of the things that you've done and spoken about
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and some of the missions that you're on through your podcast through your through writing um in this book that we
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that we'll talk about in a minute is very is is like very similar to what I'm
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doing. So, okay. um when you went through your divorce um
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how did you and how I ca overcame it but like what challenges did you go through and how did you overcome
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yeah yeah there's a lot so again this is nothing I ever wanted I would tell you
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my dad's side of the family were all pretty much divorced growing up as a child and then I came around like 19 20
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years old when I was you know I became that age and found out that my parents were divorced
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probably when I was seven or eight. I don't really know but they lived together and I had no idea. My sister
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had no idea but everybody else around us knew. Right. So there's another thing like okay I now I really don't want it
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to happen. Right. So um it would have been 15 years that we were married. we
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have two kids and so uh it was so I lost my job in 2020 and
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then you know the same so that was like May and then uh January of that within
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that same year it was things were a little shaky at home and I was really you know I didn't see it right I didn't you know it was just it was not in me my
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vows were were vows and so you know rich or poor you know sickness and health and
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all that stuff right um so I, you know, I couldn't figure things out. I don't
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know about you, but I didn't really have the men or anybody around me as a friend that I could actually turn to because I
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always kept my relationship with us, right? And everybody, you know, and that's just how it was. Um, I listened
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to a podcast, funny enough, on in that January of that year, and it was it's called Dad's Edge. It's still out there.
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I think it's 10 years in now. And for whatever reason, I was like, "Okay, I'm going to join this group." and they had
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Zoom calls and all this stuff going on, right? And I had no idea what was going to happen. So, I really didn't jump on
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those calls uh for the simple fact I wanted to be with my kids as much as I could, right?
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I w up connecting with about four to five good men where it was mo mostly
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like a lifeline kind of deal. So, I was able to call them, message them, you know, whatever it was, we could connect
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with each other and if one didn't pick up, you just try another one, right? So for me, I had a hard time trying to
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figure things out and every little thing I it was eating away at me, you know, what's going on. You couldn't talk to
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the person doing it because they weren't going to tell you, you know, what's really happening, right? Uh at least not
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for me. It wasn't working that way. And so without them, I don't know where I would
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really be today to be honest with you. I I it was nothing I really was really looking for as like assistance and help
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and a tribe as you would call it, but it worked out. So, I had one guy, he was from Canada, and he's like, "You're
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going to a divorce." Right? And this is like two months before she even said the word. I'm like, "What? How would he know?"
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Well, he he he didn't get divorced, I think, till two years later after me,
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but he wound up going through all this trying to make things work on his end with his relationship.
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Yeah. And then, um, he just saw the patterns with everybody he's been talking to and
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and the coaching and stuff he's been getting. And so, that's what he was telling me. He's like, "It it just seems
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like everything you're telling me is leading to this." I said, "Okay." So, that kind of prepared me in a way, even though I didn't want to hear it.
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Um, then there's another great guy. I consider him a coach. And he did it this
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masculinity course, right? And I'm like, what is this, right? Do you know, you know, you know it now, right?
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Masculine feminine energy. I'm like, what the right? Um
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uh before I go into that real quick, he was very kind enough to respond to my messages on Messenger as much as quickly
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as possible. And he would also say just breathe. Don't dwell on the little
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things. You're you're making things stack up in a sense, right? So I took this course. It was about April,
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beginning of May. It was four weeks once one per week that we would meet. It was me, him, and another guy that was still
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married trying to work on things, I guess. Um the first two times I was sobbing. I
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again I had no idea what was going on. I was trying the date night thing at home and you know that didn't work right.
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Somebody already checked out. And so um it the two weeks the last two weeks he's
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like a you sound better. You know I held I held myself like I you know I felt more composed of just dealing with
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things. And you know I don't really know everything that he shared with us. I don't remember at all but I do remember
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the communication part you know like we're logic you guys are women are more into feelings emotions and all this
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stuff right and like that stuff like I never looked at that that way right and now it all makes sense and you know the
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the communication barrier you know we we should be mirroring ourselves asking
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okay so what you're telling me is this and they'll be like no what I'm telling you is this you know I mean go back and
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forth for a little bit until you get on the same page Um, the one thing I like to bring up too is that
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an example would be like, hey, you know, the the wife or whatever would be like, hey, when we're done dinner, can you
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clean up and put the food away? And you know, as a guy, we're like, we grab the pots and pans and just throw them in the
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refrigerator. Why are right like why am I going to take it out, put it in Tupperware, dirty another dish, right? I
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mean, that's just how we think. You're very simple on the mind. And that's what I had to learn in my
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relationship is like I got to talk we got to talk to each other where we both can understand each other. Yeah.
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It takes a while. I get frustrated and I'm like you're not understanding me. I feel like I'm not
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being understood and all this stuff. And it's just a process and it's it's both ways. you. It's all about the patience
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and understanding each other and trying to like know what kind of conversation to have with each other.
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And yeah, it's tough. It is tough as a woman and as a man. And we're not taught
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like growing up, we weren't taught of like, you know, when you're in a relationship, this is going to happen.
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Your woman's going to feel like this or you or your man's going to feel like this. Like this is why there's so much
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struggle in relationships. I don't feel like they're they're really taught and how to communicate and how to be with
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someone and love someone and appreciate them. Everything is just it's a hot mess
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and um honestly like thank you for talking about that because it's it's
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happening a lot unfortunately and I think we need more awareness especially for men who are struggling with it and
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who have overcome it and all that stuff. I found that I'm more like knowledgeable
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now after my divorce. Yes. Than I was during my marriage. Yes.
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And I'm like, I could have done this and it probably would have helped
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tremendously. But I after my divorce, I sat there and I took a step back. I'm like, where did
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things go wrong? I'm like, how could I have corrected this? And now I feel like I'm even
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better of a a like I could have been a better partner if I knew what I know now
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back then. True. But it takes two. Yes. Right. So So if I was to say, "Hey,
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let's work on this." And the other one says, "No, then you can't you can't make it work." Right. And that's basically
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where I was in a sense. Yeah. Um but I also did learn too that 10 men commit suicide every day from
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divorce, whether it's that time or sometime after. Right. And you know, we're things just ripples, right? It's
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it's not over when it's you sign papers and stuff, you know, things are still Yeah. still there. But um who would I never
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knew that like who would have thought, right? I it could have happened, you know. And unfortunately, there are people that
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commit suicide from this. I think one of the biggest blinds that happened to me Yeah.
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was she invited me to one of her uh like her her appointments with a counselor. Okay. And both her and the and the
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counselor blindsided me and started talking about all the things that I was doing wrong.
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And that was like the biggest blind side that you could ever face. And it's just like you you like caught completely off
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guard. Yep. It was a little similar on on my end too. But
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um it it was counseling after the fact that we were going through divorce. It didn't make sense to me just to
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communicate. But um whatever. I I gave that up too because I felt like I was being, you know, pounded on from two
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two women. Exactly. Right. And no offense to that, but it just it just felt like that. And I'm like, we're
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already done. Like, you know, what are we doing? So, um yeah, it's it's definitely
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life-changing. And I agree with you. I feel so much better as a person going
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through it, unfortunately, and and fortunately. Um, but I get to carry this over to people hopefully that they don't
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go through it. Um, you know, and share with my kids. You I was just talking to my son yesterday about, you know,
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feminine and masculine and and the emotions and stuff cuz, you know, he has conflicting problems with his sister
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sometimes. I'm like, "This is how I we think." He's like, "Yeah, you're right." You know what I mean? So, it's like stuff like that. Like, if I didn't know,
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like I'm I'm I'm told I'm like, "You're learning now what I just know now." Which which I wish I knew back then. Um,
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and now we have all this information and it's just you have to hand it into the people that are younger so they can
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learn. Yeah. And I wish I could take the set from today and insert into that
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relationship back then because I feel like it could have possibly survived a little. Yeah, you're absolutely right. But you
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had to go through it for a reason, right? And now you are who you are today. That's what's important. Yeah. And then helping our youth too,
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like the little ones you were talking about. Like it's amazing that you as a parent, you're you're you went through
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this, you learned from this, and now you're taking that knowledge and giving it to your kids so they don't have to go
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through what you went through. Yeah. Yeah. I can only hope, right? Yeah. Yeah. You know, you don't know how much
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information they can take. You You can only give them as much and then sometimes I think that like are they really really grasping what I'm saying
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or are they just like one ear after another, you know? But yeah, it's I'm so
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sorry of what you both been through. But I'm very proud of both of you for
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overcoming this huge challenge cuz it's honestly it's heartbreaking and I'm
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really happy to hear that you've grown and got something good out of it. And um
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it's it's such so good to hear. So now that we finished talking about divorce,
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let's talk about something good like this book, Surrender to Rise.
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Can you talk a little about this book and you know see what what we can learn from this? Sure. Let me can I share with you how it
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became to be? Yeah. Yeah. So for me last year I attended an event in Tennessee. Uh it was maybe 100
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some people. There was this woman up there, her name's Elena. She's the one that published it and everything. And she
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spoke. She shared something about her journey that made me, you know, it
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resonated with me. So, I wrote it down. I forget what it was I wrote down, but I was able to approach her and we just spoke for a couple minutes. Never really
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got to connect thereafter because it was so busy. She wound up calling me June or
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July last year and said, "Hey, do you want to speak at my event in Texas?" You
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know, which would have been September last year. It got pushed back till this year now, but um so that came up. She's
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like, you know, I think you have something great to share and the connection we had seemed to work, you
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know, just those few minutes. And then she asked me, do you want to be part of this book? I said, "Sure." I said,
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"What's it about?" She said, "It's about your spiritual journey, right?" And I said, "Okay, well, for me, it happened
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about two years ago. You know, for whatever reason, I was saying thank you in the morning for being alive and then
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thank you God just came out of my mouth." And so I asked a close friend of mine that uh hey what is this? He's like
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I think you're just curious. Why don't you just come to church or you know grab a Bible and just check it out. And I
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said okay. So I did. And here I am about two and a half years or so now. You know still exploring. I don't know scripture
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but I do go to church. I do read you know parts of it. Go ahead. Oh I thought you were going to say no.
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Yeah. And so this part is me sharing how I started to take on, you know, learning
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about God and being more faithful. Uh because it was something I never really
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dove into. My family never really said, "Hey, go to church or anything like that." Right? And so now you go through
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good times and bad times and you can just say, "Hey, somebody's with me no matter what I'm going through." Right?
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And so I shared in there there's I think there's six or seven other men in there and this is just men. She did a women's
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edition prior to this and this is just men uh sharing their spiritual journey.
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And so there's different stories in book. Each each each man that or king as she
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would call it is sharing their spiritual journey there. Yeah. Oh. So is it every chapter they have a
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Yep. You got your picture. Yep. And then I have QR codes in in the back of mine. Oh, that is amazing.
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So they have different stories of what these men gone through in like a spiritual way. Yes. Right. And
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your story is in here too, right? Yes. I think it's like one page 120 or something like that somewhere. It starts
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around there. Oh, here it is. There you go. Navigating your rock bottom for growth.
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When life is a journey and I cannot predict everything that is going to happen, I will aim in the direction I
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want to go and I know somehow or another I will get there.
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I love that. I love that. This is this is Yeah. So, this is this is the first book I've
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ever been in. Um I do have two more coming out, but they're not spiritual.
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Uh, so it's just been this whole going through what I went through and
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the podcast and everything has just like opened up so many doors and avenues I never would have thought of, you know,
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like speaking at your event you held. Oh yes. The health and wellness expo you speaker
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Yes. Oh my goodness. And uh my fiance really enjoyed your story.
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Was he? Yeah. He was there around other people and um he he really enjoyed. So, it's
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it's really cool that you got all these great opportunities, got to speak, you get to travel. Um, I mean, you're in
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this book. Amazing that this woman allow all these other men to be part of this, too. I believe men need to speak up
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about their story and and be heard, right? Especially with what y'all go
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through, divorce and everything. Um, it's incredible. And uh thank you for
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just being here especially. So did you want to say anything?
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And you mentioned you mentioned we were talking about this book in the in the pre-in
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donating some of your proceeds to the um to an organization that is a local
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organization in Quaker J. Yeah. Uh would you like to talk a little bit? Yeah, I will. So, um, the woman's name
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is Christie, and I have yet to meet her in person or a Zoom call or anything, but we've been contact, uh, different
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ways. And so, I first heard about this last year. I went to a church was
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holding event and a magician came. Apparently, the magician was deaf a long time ago. you know, he's got stuff going
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on now where he's got implants where he can start hearing stuff now. But he started doing magician shows because and
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he was deaf and going to schools and it's it was just working in his favor. Um, I was moved by that, but then I was
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also moved that he was there to just raise money for this and it's a new wave
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uh I'm sorry, the next wave ministries. And so she's based out of Quakertown
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area in Pennsylvania. Uh it's about young women aging out of foster care. So
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they are of age where the what's the age? Yeah. So it's around 18, right? 17 18 I
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guess is when they're aging out. They don't have a foster home. So they have nowhere to go. So most of them wind up
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on the streets or you know they they just go in shelters or whatever. I really don't know the whole ins and
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outs. I do have some statistics she gave me for just for Pennsylvania, but she said most states are basically the same.
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So, I'll just read a few of them off um because it's very moving to me of what
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you know and she she was a teacher I think and she quit and and just started doing this because she said God said do
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this, right? So, um here here it is. So, youth ages out of foster care between 18 and 21. Uh
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this means they don't have county or state support anymore to pay a family to care for them and they end up with very
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little support. Uh due to the lack of support, this is what the statistics are. 20% of young women aging out become
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instantly homeless. 50% of girls struggle with homelessness until the age of 25. 70% of young women become
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pregnant before their 21st birthday. About 50% of them, I'm sorry, about 50%
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of these young women, I'm sorry, about 50% of these young moms will have to
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give up their children to foster care, continuing the cycle. 50% struggle with unemployment. Less than 50% will
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graduate from high school with a GED. And then uh up to 90% of young women
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become victims of sex trafficking from fost, you know, getting out of foster care. My my thing is, sorry to cut you
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off, but my thing is like, how do you expect them to know how to be
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independent if they didn't have a family to guide them? They didn't have guidance. So, what
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my question is is that in the foster care, what do they offer for them?
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Yeah. I I I don't know all the ins and outs of foster care, but it you basically have a family, right, that's
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supporting you and raising you and you're jump you might be jumping around from different families. And I guess at that age, I guess people
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don't take in those, you know, kids of 17, 18 years old or even older, right? Cuz they're basically an adult.
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So they just they're just on their own, right? So now she's she's in the process of trying to get a house somewhere in
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the area, okay? where she can actually have shelter for some of these young women. It won't be a lot, but it's a start.
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And I know she's starting to counsel some of them. And you know, that's it's just something that I was moved by and I
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thought, well, all the proceeds I'm making on my end, whoever's going to my link to buy it
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is just going to go to this. And so, I'm hoping to raise $1,000. I'm already at 70, just selling a few books.
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Okay. But it's it's I don't think it's gonna it's not going to take long to get there as long as people are just
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interested. And so you'll get the book to read right about these kings and then you know it's just going to go for this
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cause and the plan is to have her on my podcast. It just hasn't lined up yet for I'm sure she's so busy like
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Oh yeah. Yeah. I can't it's hard to even get a hold of her. Yeah. Set everything up. I mean that she's on a mission and this this is so
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needed. I mean, it's not only the foster care homes, it's also homelessness uh shelters out there, too. It's it's hard
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to even go in. There's such a lineup. And then, you know, housing costs, living is everything's going up. So,
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that's really touching. I didn't even know about that. Me neither until I heard about that that show.
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I have worked with foster care kids. I've done a workshop. Uh, the Girl
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Scouts hired me to provide a free coloring book activity where I have I
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teach the kids how to accept the imperfect images and how to include that with themselves and they get to keep the
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coloring book and the um the crayons uh so they can keep that and and color whenever they want. And it was such a
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special moment. That was like my first time ever being in a foster care home and providing that activity with them.
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But Girl Scouts, they hired me to do that for one day. And I was like, they I didn't know about this Girl Scouts, but
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they they, you know, collect all the money that they they raised from um
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selling the cookies and then they do a different activities. They spend it and then they wanted to hire me and I did a
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leadership activity with them and then they hired me to do this for the foster care. So, it's it's really really
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rewarding. Yeah. And um that's that's really cool. So those who are listening, Surrender to
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Rise, King's Adession by Al Elena Rodriguez, right?
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You got it. And John Emory is in this book and his story is in here and donation. So is it
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the 100% of the for me? Yes. I mean, obviously it's cost towards the book and then the difference
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would Oh, so the different Oh, thank you for doing this. This is incredible. Where can people get this book?
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Yeah, I'll give you the link. can so but it it's it's through like a PayPal link that I have. Yeah, you just
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you have a website. Uh that's what I mean. I can give you the link so you can go it. It's like this whole thing. So but but yeah, so
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just check it out, you know, wherever you guys put the word. I'll post the link in um the post of
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this p podcast. I will include it on my social media page and everything just to
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help spread the word. And yeah, this is this has been such a incredible journey
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that you've given us. Is there anything you want to mention before we end this?
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Anything I want to mention? Yes. To inspire whoever is listening. Uh yeah, I'll start off with like don't
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quit. Um I know a lot of people just give up on things over time because they just don't feel like it's working out.
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So having a strong why or you know a purpose a reason passion whatever it is
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that's moving you towards something to keep going right and I share that
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because of the simple fact because of the podcasting world for me I I always stress the fact of figuring out why are
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you doing a podcast because 90% don't get past episode three let's keep going Lisa right um bec and they fall off
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right and for the most part they they're looking for money. They're looking for a audience, right? Or it's the work.
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It's It takes time. They Yeah. Or they're launching one episode right now and then they have to hurry up and scramble for next week and
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then they go, "Oh, well, I didn't make it. Who's going to listen to me now?" So again, that's why I mentioned the 10
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episodes first. Uh but yeah, like have that and that's that's really what I
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feel carried me to keep going where I'm going with what I'm doing with the podcast. And now I have Podcasters Hub,
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which is a community of 35 podcasters at the moment. Um, having special guests
31:43
coming in every once in a while throughout the month. And then I'm trying to work on an event, too. So, you
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know, that's coming up with podcasting. But that's what I if Okay, so if I quit,
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then my kids see that I quit, right? And I don't want that, right? even if it's not like the best time in our lives
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right now, like there there's it's it's going to get there. So, you have to like navigate through that. And I know Alex
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Herozi says it's like the gray area, right? So, you're going from these friends to these friends, but you have no friends, right? So, it's you have to
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just get through that. And yeah, these people are pulling you back, these people are pulling you forward. So, you
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just have to have that. That's that's what I think. Just don't don't quit on whatever it is that you're going going
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through and doing. Yeah, it's it's a very important uh message not to quit
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as much as you want to as much as it like it's it's hard to get out of bed in the morning or it's hard to, you know,
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get to that next place that you need to go to. Yeah. Uh every day you got to get up, you got
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to keep going, you got to do what you not only don't want to do, you know, but
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you have to make sure that you're there for everybody else as well. So part of part of what we do um at and part of
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what Lisa does with the Perfection of Beautiful is we love to help people. We love to help nonprofits. So we'll definitely be
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looking into this nonprofit to see to see what we can do to possibly help this as well. I might actually buy one. Yeah, I have a
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good friend who might be very interested in this. Um this is very inspiring and it's very
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unique. So that's that's very incredible.
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Well, thank you so much for being part of our Imperfect Helping Hands podcast
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journey and I hope that many listeners over here will take a lot of what you're
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saying and really make a difference and help anybody who may be going through the same situation. So, thank you all so
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much for speaking up and really um opening your heart up to the community
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and doing what you're doing. Keep it up. Honestly, you have inspired me to create this wonderful podcast. I thank Seth for
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being my co-host and we'll just keep going. We'll not give up. Right.
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